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This week on the “Ryn The Guardian Melberg” podcast, Ryn discusses the types and merits of training and certification for Agile and Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe). The podcast can be heard on iTunes, Soundcloud (, Stitcher (, or on her web site,

Certification in Agile or Scaled Agile demonstrates knowledge and documented expertise. There are people who have knowledge and experience with Agile, and that will certainly benefit a company or organization. But for those with certification, knowledge about and a larger degree of credibility will always come with official recognition. People working inside organizations or those who are marketing Agile training are more believable and influential with colleagues and/or prospects. “I doubt anyone would be interested in a cardiologist who had only experience or interest in heart surgery,” Melberg said. “You would certainly insist on one who had a degree, had passed rigorous exams, and had certification. We should be no less discerning when it comes to requirements for Agile or SAFe project management qualifications.”

Certification Opportunities

There are 2 primary organizations that are recognized for their programs.

The Project Management Institute (PMI) is the largest project management organization in the world. PMI recognizes knowledge of Agile principles, practices and tools and techniques across Agile methodologies.

The PMI Agile Certification Eligibility requirements include:

  • 2,000 hours working on project teams,
  • another 1,500 hours working on Agile project teams or with Agile methodologies,
  • another 21 “contact” hours and be able to pass tests about the training.

The Scrum Alliance also offers certifications. Scrum training and certification fulfill the vision of the Agile manifesto by fostering greater collaboration, productivity, and success among team members. According to their website, “this global movement transforms organizations and takes them to higher levels of performance.” Scrum Alliance offers many types of training and certification.

  • Certified ScrumMaster®

The Certified ScrumMaster® course offers training in the fundamentals essential for Scrum team members or a professional Scrum master.

  • Certified Scrum Product Owner®

The Certified Scrum Product Owner course exposes students to the basics of Scrum from the product owner’s perspective. Receive training in the art of managing a product backlog and working with a Scrum team.

  • Certified Scrum Developer®

The Certified Scrum Developer program trains team members in advanced Agile engineering practices and other agility skills, along with the Scrum fundamentals developers need to create working software.

  • Certified Scrum Professional®

The ultimate goal of all Scrum practitioners, the Certified Scrum Professional credential conveys demonstrated experience, documented training, and proven knowledge in the art of Scrum.

More Valuable Employees

Once employees are certified and more valuable will they leave? Ryn had some research on that topic to share. “What the studies show is that if they leave after certification, they were planning to leave anyway,” Ryn said. “On the other hand, the investment in training is appreciated and employees will choose to stay because they feel valued”.

Certification requires ongoing training and recertification. Benefits accrue to groups and companies as long as the person stays on. This is a huge payoff for the investment in the certification process.

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